Life is so precious and a miracle!
For me and mine, I'm a pro lifer. For others, it's their choice. It's none of my business. They have to carry the burden one way or the other.
Then, perhaps you're actually pro-choice, after all?
i'm not after a discussion on the rights or wrongs on abortion, what i'm asking is whether or not your views have evolved over time.. perhaps leaving the watchtower was enough to allow your true feelings on abortion to find expression.
maybe abortion is one of those subjects where you still find yourself in agreement with your old jw self.
did becoming a mother change your perspective in any way or solidify your views?.
Life is so precious and a miracle!
For me and mine, I'm a pro lifer. For others, it's their choice. It's none of my business. They have to carry the burden one way or the other.
Then, perhaps you're actually pro-choice, after all?
i'm not after a discussion on the rights or wrongs on abortion, what i'm asking is whether or not your views have evolved over time.. perhaps leaving the watchtower was enough to allow your true feelings on abortion to find expression.
maybe abortion is one of those subjects where you still find yourself in agreement with your old jw self.
did becoming a mother change your perspective in any way or solidify your views?.
I think I'm more against women that use abortion as a form of birth control, that is criminal. Women who chose to abort like in my cousins case or women who have been raped. That's a grey area for me.
The reason you feel it's a "grey area" is because that is still birth control, regardless of the reason or justification for having it done.
Abortion is always birth-control? How could it not be viewed as birth control? It is preventing a birth, period, so it's birth control, whether one approves of the reason for it or not.
i'm not after a discussion on the rights or wrongs on abortion, what i'm asking is whether or not your views have evolved over time.. perhaps leaving the watchtower was enough to allow your true feelings on abortion to find expression.
maybe abortion is one of those subjects where you still find yourself in agreement with your old jw self.
did becoming a mother change your perspective in any way or solidify your views?.
Fe2O3Girl (Murderer class)
No, you are not! I am so sorry you went through it in the way that you did!
One of the most difficult decisions in a woman's life is whether or not to have an abortion, at least in most cases.
It is NOT murder.
"If men could get pregnant, abortion would be a sacrament." (NOT THAT I THINK IT SHOULD BE).
It is usually only something done by people in great need or desperate situations.
Yes, every child should be a wanted child.
Trying to force people to have unwanted kids can and does often result in some of the most egregious cases of child abuse.
Just ask any adult who knew they were unwanted as a child, (whether or not they agree with abortion)!
And those are views of mine that have evolved over time and with personal experience, Nic. Thanks for bringing up this discussion.
Something microwavable from the freezer - probably a burrito, unless I decide to go out or dip into the dog food.
no wishing for more wishes.
no wishing to know what to wish for.
i, the genie, have the authority to grant your wish or not to grant your wish as i so choose.
you are now an evil unemployed Genie and your student loans have been called in
Alas! My last hopes for happiness have been dashed and I cannot make my third wish!
diatribe is therefore invalid and subject to reversal once I complete my appeal to the Judicial Society of Ethical Magic Admnisistration
Oh, thank goodness! Then I have a little more time to think about my third wish!
I'm just glad I'm still here to experience them.
Ian
Me too. Some days I don't feel that way, but today's a better day, despite the overcast, or perhaps because of it. We all need the rain (and the sun), just not too much of either.
i read these statements by roger angell from page 81 of november 2007 issue of oprah.
despite being an oprhah fan, i have never purchased her mags, due to my prejudice against glossy, narcissistic-appearing rags, but, you gotta' take the good with the bad, especially when you're desperate for insight or comfort.
i am truly glad that i opened myself up to some more positive thinking and purchased this admittedly overly commercialized mag, as i've been suffering a bit of emotional diarhhea lately.. now that i know i can get it online, i won't waste any more trees, though!.
I read these statements by Roger Angell from page 81 of November 2007 issue of Oprah.
Despite being an Oprhah fan, I have never purchased her mags, due to my prejudice against glossy, narcissistic-appearing rags, BUT, you gotta' take the good with the bad, especially when you're desperate for insight or comfort.
I am truly glad that I opened myself up to some more positive thinking and purchased this admittedly overly commercialized mag, as I've been suffering a bit of emotional diarhhea lately.
Now that I know I can get it online, I won't waste any more trees, though!
Anyway, the articles on "When The Going Gets Tough - 3 Rules To Pull You Through" and the brief meditation on divorce were enormously appreciated.
I never thought of divorce in this way; I'm not saying divorce is a great thing to be romanticized, but there are other perspectives, besides the "gloom and doom" one about how bad everything is "in this old world" is, as Roger Angell's words attest:
"Looking at my family now, I note there have been 11 (or 16, counting another way) divorces, spread across three generations -- more than enough for a soap, and not what its members would have invented for themselves as children. But we cannot now unimagine the new fathers and step-aunts and half brothers or sisters and half grandnieces that sit around the family tables on a Thanksgiving, or wish a life for ourselves that did not include unexpected attachments." -Roger Angell
I love the beauty and drama of lightning storms and gentle rain while I sleep.
Speaking of which, I'm going back to bed for a bit, like I said I was and hour ago . . . . I hope it rains.
if you want people to live a good life to show that happiness is the best revenge, then why not put your words into action and reach out as a real live friend to someone local in your area.
JG - I have some extremely unhappy things to cope with in my life right now. How effectively I cope will affect my happiness.
Right now, I need help coping effectively, and that's okay. Thereapy helps. Medication helps. Friends help. People at discussion boards like this can help, too, but if you find they don't, then maybe there are other helpers for you out there.
I'm not saying leave the board, but maybe a break from it would help?
I'm going back to bed. again. and then to work.
it has been sadly interesting to see fadingeld's and others experiences unfold...wife out the door pronto and some not.
many here are still married, one in one out.
i have basically had a sucessful unplanned fade.
You might want to contact jgnat about some of her strategies. She recently mentioned something about techniques for bringing out the authentic person in your mate, or something like that. I think she has a pretty balanced view, although her circumstances are a bit different than yours, she is also "unevenly yoked."